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  A New Way to Stop Cheaters! - Utilities
  Posted by: BlackCloud on 12-24-2003 @ 10:12
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Well here is what seems to be another way to stop cheating in Call of Duty.
Quote:
What started as a Banned IP list that I compiled was used by DSC Psychoti
and friend to be made into a working ban php application, Banned IP
List Updater.
The ban list will cover multiple games
in the community. The site is still under construction but the BILU
application is fully functioning (think of it as the Death Star in Jedi).
This will come in handy as admins from all over the community can upload
and download the most current and active ban list of cheaters.
Everyone is encouraged to register at the site. Team/Clan
administrators can submit for admin privelages to be able to upload data.
Administrator privelages will be reviewed by the staff and registrees
must be in good name with the community before given admin rights. Upon
being approved as an administrator, you will be able to upload banned IPs,
names, or cd-keys.
Everyone wants this list to work for the
community, but no one wants IPs uploaded because a person was camping too
much. This list is specifically for security to prevent cheaters,
bad/rude players, and excessive TKers from entering clean game servers.
Please visit the site and register today!

Check out the website here!



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 #1 - 12-24-2003 at 11:01
stansmith
Joined: June 13th, 2003
Posts: 898
ok cool i guess

 #2 - not a good idea - 12-24-2003 at 11:06
nybrit
Joined: November 13th, 2003
Posts: 2
maybe some one can tell me im wrong but this seems an unfair way to find cheaters anyone could end up on this list i dont cheat myself and never would but what if some how i got put on the list my 50 dollers would be wasted what safe guards are there to stop just anyone being put on this list ? i think iw should be setting up some way to stop cheaters and tkers . this seems to me to a very vigilante approach to the problem .after all everyone seems to screams cheater when they get out played by a better player . i maybe totaly wrong in my opinion but who should have the right to say you cant play cod multiplayer because someone said you cheat . i hate cheaters as much as the next guy iw and activision need to address the problem fast befor it gets out of hand and the game becomes unplayable . just my thoughts happy to be flamed if im wrong ..

 #3 - 12-24-2003 at 13:02
Subsane
From: (Vancouver BC)
Joined: May 28th, 2003
Posts: 103
I agree with #2....How can you be absolutely 100% sure that someone is cheating?

 #4 - Yesssssss - 12-24-2003 at 13:13
bustter
From: (Detroit Mi)
Joined: August 19th, 2003
Posts: 411
I Went on a server and im a pretty good player i think .but what do i know ooh well back to point .when i played against a certain server ,i wont say who every move i made they knew every single time where i was i got slaughtered repeatietly over and over i tried to stand still in hiding spots and all of a sudden there he or she was.< dead >over and over i never got a shot in once we need a pgm like this to stop cheaters it sucks trying to play with loser cheaters. Aaargh!!!

 #5 - 12-24-2003 at 13:30
RangerZero
Joined: December 23rd, 2003
Posts: 1
I agree with #2 also , this is a very bulls*** way of going about it, I cant count the number of times iv bin banned on a server becouse the admin didnt like how good i was playing.Even the most average player is going to get on a streak and get many kills.Also , did i read that correctly? Collecting cd keys? WTF are you guys trying to do!!! I tell ya what , If my cd key gets ripped off becouse of the program or what ever it is, Ill be looking for somone in court.Good god ppl make a anticheat program not a stupid list of ip# you think were cheatting. OMG i can go on for hours, So ill just stop here. Sorry to the codfiles staff if i got out of line.

 #6 - 12-24-2003 at 13:54
Docm30
Joined: October 27th, 2003
Posts: 520
LOL, thats the mohaa fail screen, you can even see "mission failed"

 #7 - 12-24-2003 at 15:40
Heero_Yuyk
Joined: March 30th, 2003
Posts: 439
this is a bad idea, alot of ppl that shouldnt be banned r gonna get banned...

 #8 - 12-24-2003 at 16:03
Kev_M
Joined: November 15th, 2001
Posts: 105
I also agree with #2
This is a stupid Idea.
And collecting CD keys is only gonna end up with people who work hard for the £40 / $50 it takes to buy this game are probably gonna find themselves on the recieving end of a Unfair ban or find their key out in the open for all the damn cheapskate downloaders out there.

This program and its very idea was obviously thrown together and will just cause more problems than it will solve.

 #9 - 12-24-2003 at 20:23
raptorseye
Joined: March 15th, 2003
Posts: 224
yes this is a bad idea, there is gonna be an admin (prolly a lot more than just 1) who is having a bad day, and is playing like crap and gettin owned by like, everyone. and he will just start busting out the ip bans.

 #10 - 12-24-2003 at 22:04
Keirok
Joined: October 25th, 2002
Posts: 15
this was done with Team Fortress Cl*****ic not too long ago--worked quite well infact.

 #11 - I KNOW! - 12-24-2003 at 22:10
stg4420000
Joined: March 23rd, 2003
Posts: 420
someone take a couple photos of old murder cases (preferably gruesome) and make a fake newspaper saying several people who happen to cheat in online games was murdered by a new kind of serial killer-who proclaims his need to hunt down all cheaters! then spam it all over the net. spread the word around ingame too. then wait a few days and watch the hacking come to a standstill. Devil!

 #12 - 12-25-2003 at 01:17
Munchies
From: (jerusalem)
Joined: October 11th, 2003
Posts: 405
I think like #2 that this is a bad idea.
and collecting cd-keys is the most worst way of dealing with it, ur gonna rob somebody his 50$ because "he headshotted me with just one shot! i shot him seven times!" we all know that this game's realism system is not the best (speaking lightly) and that ***** can happen.
only if u have a solid proof ( a video like we made of a cheater going beserk with a 80-0 KR in 7 rounds of sd)
and it is approoved by a great amout of admins only then u can put him on this "list" of yours.

 #13 - Some guiding ideas - 12-25-2003 at 04:15
NFC_Pickard
From:
Joined: May 19th, 2003
Posts: 249
Instead of cutting buddy up for trying to solve a problem, i prefer to help. The new patch coming out will have GUID available for recognition of players thru a player specific # code made up of a combo of your IP and cd key. This will help immensly and there will no need to ban cd keys. Im sure IW would want to just stop a cheater from using a cheat, not to stop ppl from being able to play and would not appreciate an organized group cutting off business for them.

So, goto http://www.punksbusted.com - This is how it should be done if you want to do it. Nobody gets put on there master ban list for any of there games til they go thru a rigorous screening, with demos, screenshots, major proof of a cheater caught. Only prob I see is CoD needs its anti-cheat soon. We need, as admins, to be able to take screenies like in SOF2's PunkBuster screenshots. This takes a screenshot of the players actual screen, showing exactly what they see on there monitor. If they see someone thru a wall, and you get a screenie at the right time, there caught. Ive caught um b4 myself in SOF2.

My biggest advice would be to wait til we have the ability to show proof before attempting your idea. Then rock & roll. Visit punksbusted. They are the best.

 #14 - 12-25-2003 at 05:38
Guest (axitec.xs4all.nl)
Joined: December 31st, 1969
Posts:
I think its stupid, one day i just shot around (little aiming on the bombspot, someone was planting it) and i kill him (in brecourt). Ofcourse he thinks I'm a cheater, but I'm not. So for that joke, I can play anymore on a server? It make no sense, they can't know 100% that I'm a cheater.

Sorry for my bad english btw.

 #15 - bad idea - 12-25-2003 at 07:48
CYFO_DIAZ
Joined: October 4th, 2002
Posts: 72
i think someone hmight already have said this but can'y someone give the IP address of someonme that they don't like and have them banned!? I like the idea of stopping the cheaters but this could really mess up the game for some people...

 #16 - online play - 12-25-2003 at 09:09
Rammer_DD
Joined: December 21st, 2003
Posts: 5
bad idea for one reason lag in any game you will at one time or the other encounter it so band some one for lag is dumb

the only hope is if they get punkbuster in this game as soon as possible or it will go down fast

 #17 - IP's - 12-25-2003 at 09:17
massmurderer
Joined: January 23rd, 2003
Posts: 15
Some people don't have static IP's so when they turn their comp off, even with adsl, the next time they go on the net, their IP will be different and so if some poor person goes to play and ends up with that IP then they ain't going to be able to play. They'll see that they are banned and get pretty hacked off! I think using IP's is a flawed process because of this

 #18 - Try again. - 12-25-2003 at 11:10
MaxRockatansky
From:
Joined: November 17th, 2003
Posts: 2
This sounds like another idea with good intentions that will most likely be abused for nefarious purposes or compound the wrongfull accusations of non cheaters. This would probably do just as much to damage to the COD online community than it would to stop cheaters.

This approach *****umes that admins are responsible and knowledgeable...and accurate with thier accusations. What if the admin is wrong? Since there is no anticheat software yet, admins opinoins are the only cheat detection method currently being used. When we do get the anticheat software, what if the anticheat software has a bug that labels someone a cheater when they are not (I guarantee it will happen occasionally)? Are you going to buy that person a new CD key so they aren't locked out of half the servers on the internet? We all know there are plenty of terrible admins out there. Any fool with a few extra $$ can rent a server.

I strongly believe that this idea would become a part of the problem, and not a solution

like I said., Try again.

 #19 - Yep find another way! - 12-25-2003 at 11:14
Guest (c-44a371d5.013-268-6c756c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)
Joined: December 31st, 1969
Posts:
I agree with #2 and #17
All of us dont have static ip:s soo it going to couse some truoble! I have fiberbroadband 10MBit/s and ill get a new ipadress everytime i turn on my computer!!! Soo if someone else have had that ipnr and have cheated im going to be banned!! AND i HATE cheaters btw!!

 #20 - 12-26-2003 at 01:16
thelastname
Joined: September 24th, 2002
Posts: 7
not very good for people with dynamic ip's

 #21 - Didnt these ppl think about the consequences? - 12-26-2003 at 20:55
SoldierEx
From:
Joined: October 16th, 2003
Posts: 134
I mean,with IP adresses listed some wannabe 1337 hacker admin may use it to hack peoples IP adresses or something like that.

 #22 - 12-27-2003 at 02:22
Gimpy
Joined: March 19th, 2003
Posts: 106
who ever made this, is a moron, if someones a loser, and dicides to ban you "shwoooooosh" 50 bucks wasted by some stupid loser kid with no friend that sucks and can only win by banning good people, it happend to sof2 in a few months and everyone thinks everyone hacks becuase he took a sniper rifle and someone was standing around and got shot in the head. take this stupid crap down before everyone gets banned.

 #23 - 12-27-2003 at 18:03
Oblit
From:
Joined: December 27th, 2003
Posts: 1
Just a thought....

If someone starts waisting players keys that they paid for, I'm sure it wouldn't be long till a cl***** action lawsuit was filed against the people who created and ran this program.

 #24 - WHAT THA F**K!? - 12-28-2003 at 11:19
s7on3d
Joined: December 28th, 2003
Posts: 2
You already know whats gonna happen..
sum nub ***** admin is gonna start banning a $hit load of i.p.'s cause they feel like it. F**k you nub admins " I'll pwnzz jooos".

 #25 - Agreed. - 12-31-2003 at 20:54
Porkupine
From: (Wellington, New Zealand)
Joined: December 31st, 2003
Posts: 52
I agree with post #17, Depending on how you connect to the internet, You are given a new I.P each time you turn your computer on.

So quite easily a cheater can just reboot his computer and rejoin the server.

 #26 - Very bad idea - 01-01-2004 at 18:32
Mynxxx
From:
Joined: December 30th, 2003
Posts: 1
Great intentions....bad follow through.
If I get band becouse im on a killing streak ....thats bad.
if my cd code gets riped becouse you've collected my ID (and this is done without my concent) or even with it...and someone else plays the game and gets banded...then I cant play?? thats bad...

need we really go on with this....just wait for activison to come out with punk buster or some such anti cheat ....

till then just take the names of the people who you "think" are cheating and flame them good...

Mynxxx

 #27 - #22 - 01-02-2004 at 13:58
NFC_Pickard
From:
Joined: May 19th, 2003
Posts: 249
#22 - Which SOF2 game are you playing? Doesnt sound like the one the rest of us are. At least know what you are talking about b4 you post.

 #28 - 01-05-2004 at 07:21
gamie
From:
Joined: December 16th, 2003
Posts: 146
i got original game. but if yur unlucky you wil buy the game with a banned cd-key so heres a tip: always buy the last cd in the game case when you buy call of duty wink then you have more chances of owning a not used cdkeybig grin

 #29 - ok... - 01-07-2004 at 16:12
Guest (h24-69-212-126.cc.shawcable.net)
Joined: December 31st, 1969
Posts:
This is the saddest excuse for an anti-cheat program i have ever seen, if people use this I can see lots of good players being banned for no reason

 #30 - 01-10-2004 at 14:35
Guest (flaherty.plus.com)
Joined: December 31st, 1969
Posts:
I think its a brill idea as a member of a clan I get p****d off when some 1 comes on and cheats, then spoils others games. So I say ban em. An Rock on to yas all At CoD Files. An Gud luck wiv it all.

I salute you.

*Over an out*



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